I just recieved a Stanley #92 in the mail that I won a few days ago on Ebay. I think I may have a problem with the blade. I am new to these planes but am unable to find a picture of a replacement blade on the web in quite the same shape 🙂
Do I:
a) Send it back
b) Pound out the curve.
If the answer is b, will this compromise the iron at all? Should I use heat of just a big hammer? Other suggestions?
I can clearly see why it happened, the screw on what I would consider the lever cap was tightened too much. Is this a common problem?
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How it is on the business end? YOu can get replacement blades of the #92. http://www.stjamesbaytoolco.com/ lists them and I think I have seen them a couple of other places.
Joe,
If you like the plane otherwise, I'd just gently and carefully tap it out flat. The metal has probably already been somewhat compromised, but on casual look -- from what can be told from the photos -- it doesn't look like it will affect function much if at all, if you can get it flat again. Otherwise, if the damage is not in the description, I'd contact the seller for some kind of adjustment or replacement/refund.
If you decide to replace the iron, here are a couple of places that you can get a replacement iron from:
http://roseantiquetools.com/store/page42.html (at bottom of page)
http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/browseproducts/Stanley-90---93-Rabbet-Plane-Replacement-Iron.HTML
http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?FamilyID=550
http://www.stjamesbaytoolco.com/stanley.html (toward middle of page)
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Tschüß!
James
"I'm sorry, Dave, I can't do that...."
--A.C. Clarke
It was bent because the pin on the adjuster wasn't fitted down in the notch on the blade when the screw was tightened. You won't need heat or a big hammer to straighten out. Clamp it in a vise and light tapping or just hand pressure will straighten it as good as new.
John White, Shop Manager, Fine Woodworking Magazine
Further to what John has said- only light tapping required-support it on some hard wood.If it is not cracked you may get lucky.
When you fit the blade into that plane the relationship between the "screw cap", the blade and the adjuster is important: the capscrew needs to be as far back as possible and the adjuster peg/bed combination as far forward as possible whilst still allowing a bit of adjustment. In this way you will have that capscrew exerting pressure more or less on top of the bed: if the bed is too far back and the cap too far forward that screw will just bend the blade since it is unsupported from under.
Thanks everyone for the suggestions! I've done my best to straighten it out, and after about 45 minutes with my stones, the plane was in usable order.
As a side note, I contacted the seller about this because there was no mention of the bent iron in his post. He professed ignorance on the subject and offered an apology and several choices to me for reimbursement or return. Using the links provided above, I decided to go with a new iron that he is going to pay for. I'm pleased with the outcome!
Joe, that's a very handy plane to have in your pen and I am happy that the problem was resolved. Most of the regular tool guys will always do the right thing. I have bought many dozens of tool items there and only got stiffed by the general merchandise (read flea market junk for the older ladies) merchants who work on volume, have outrageous " customized " shipping costs and will black ball you for the slighest disagreement. Ebay protects these clowns and you have no help as they generate volume for the house. Be careful and look at their past sales for type of goods. If it's 43 plates , pottery, wall hangings etc. look out. BTW what did the plane go for? Paddy
Paddy I was smiling at your post. I haven't bought anything from eBay in maybe a year but before that I bought quite a lot of old tools. Your post has the ring of truth to it.
I won it for $86, and am happy with the seller I won it from. I've been watching ebay for quite some time, and have also won a #3 and #4, which did not disappoint. There is so much out there I think if one takes their time and is carefull about the seller, I think ebay is a viable option for starting off a hand tool collection as I am attempting to do.
Joe. I started slowly 15+ years ago when it was a little cheaper. The big thing is be informed, read, read, read, the plane book, Leeches blood and guts on ALL the Stanley planes and their faults(although I disagree with his position on bed rocks over some old Baileys that we can't get.) it is a font of information. The web sites for Sargent/Miller's Falls/ kleencutter etc. are super info.
Just as important, look in the pants pockets of the seller. I you really want a tool, look at all the pics in his history and the comments. If it's a plane and the pics don't show the bottom of the sole and mouth, ASK THE SELLER A QUESTION*, do it early and do it nice and the good guys will comply - no answer -no bid. Always be ready to walk away, there will always be another. Don't even think of looking for a #1 or some #2's the collectors will put you in mortage country. All the best, Paddy
ED-- " A ring of truth" HAH, would you like to see the scars. I did have some very big winners also.
* ask ALL the questions. I picked up a very clean MF #4 ½ but it took me two months to loosen the frog adjustment screw with PB blaster and tap, tap, tap with great patience and finally had a super plane. ($26) pfh.
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