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   WayneL5 | Oct 06, 2003 04:05am | #1

   I know of two possibilities.  In Warren, Vermont (east of northern NY) is a school called Yestermorrow.  They have short courses in woodworking.  I attended one and would rate them only average, more for beginners than advanced students.  Here's their web site. http://www.yestermorrow.org/

   Another school, which is actually a college which offers degrees in cabinet making, is Algonquin College in Ottawa, Canada.  It's about 100 km north of the US / Canada border.  I don't know if they have short programs, but their degree programs are excellent. http://www.algonquincollege.com/highband/swf/index.htm

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   Raats | Oct 06, 2003 04:45am | #2

   Thanks Waynel,

   I'll try those sites, and if you need some info from Brazil or any other just let me know.

   Thanks again.

   Raats

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   riverr1 | Oct 06, 2003 07:51am | #3

   Might want to look into Dunbar's "Windsor Institute" also. I believe it's in New York. If not, close by.

   ooops! The school is in New Hampshire.

   http://www.thewindsorinstitute.com/index.html

   Don

   Edited 10/6/2003 12:53:20 AM ET by Don C.

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   Adrian | Oct 06, 2003 09:50pm | #6

   A small point, Algonquins program is a certificate (most Canadian schools would call it a diploma at the two year level, a certificate at the one- year), not a degree....there is only one Canadian college (rather than university), Conestoga,  offering a degree in wood, and this is the first year for it.

   A year or two-year committment is a lot different than a two week program aimed at people who do woodworking as a hobby; anyway, I'm biased of course, because I trained that way, and now I teach, but I think it's the best way to go if you have any intention of making a living at it. There are a number of Canadian colleges offering excellent programs....a few are the Britich Columbia Inst. of Technology, Red River College in Manitoba, Conestoga College and Algonquin in Ontario, New Brunswick Community College, and Nova Scotia Community College. University of British Columbia also offers the only degree level wood products program in North America (as against industrial engineering programs with a specialisation in wood).cabinetmaker/college woodworking instructor. Cape Breton, N.S

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   riverr1 | Oct 07, 2003 12:40am | #7

   ""University of British Columbia also offers the only degree level wood products program in North America (as against industrial engineering programs with a specialisation in wood).""

   Did you mean Canada? There are number of schools in the states with this program. My degree is from Michigan Tech school of forestry which also has a school of wood products. Heavy emphisis on glues and wood composite materials.

   But there are many other schools from Yale, U. Mass, Colorado Mining School, etc.

   Don

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   Adrian | Oct 07, 2003 02:53pm | #8

   My understanding is it is the only one in North America with a degree in secondary wood products processing; they basically brought over the curriculum from Rosenheim University in Munich. There are lots of schools covering the primary end; this is still the only one I'm aware of for secondary. I may be wrong though.cabinetmaker/college woodworking instructor. Cape Breton, N.S

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   Adrian | Oct 07, 2003 09:16pm | #9

   I've looked at the Michigan tech program.....seems to be all engineered wood. Yale and U.Mass are traditional forestry programs as far as I can see. This is the program I'm talking about (http://www.cawp.ubc.ca/BScWPP_UnderProg.htm)   

   ...it's in the school of forestry, but it's secondary wood products....furniture, millwork, value-added wood products etc.. Taught by wood scientists, engineers, and cabinetmakers.  I've been there, it's a good program, and the only equivalents I know of are the Fachhochschules in Germany, a school in Switzerland, I think there is one in Austria, and now there's one in Australia. The U.S has North Carolina State, but that's industrial engineering with an emphasis on furniture, and other good stuff happening at Georgia Tech, U.Mississipi, Virginia tech, Eastern Kentucky U., and some others(and some college level programs like Palomar in CA). Some have tech centres, where courses are offered. Lots do wood science, some do forest products marketing, and some have some courses here and there, but I don't believe any offer a degree like UBC. I'm drawing in part from a pretty comprehensive listing of American schools a consultant prepared for a report we commissioned recently. If there are any, I'd like to be aware of it.cabinetmaker/college woodworking instructor. Cape Breton, N.S

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   riverr1 | Oct 08, 2003 07:33pm | #10

   Adrian,

   Sounds like a good program. The original contention would be in your saying a "wood" program. I suppose that could mean a lot of things to different people. I guess the second contention is, is in "secondary" wood products. Primary wood products being the use of natural, real and whole wood. Secondary being those engineered products, or products perhipheral to primary products like preservatives. Even byproducts like cedar chips and mulch are secondary wood products. Anyway, I took you to be discussing a program designed around these products, and not along the lines of secordary wood products being mill management or operations management, etc.

   Anyway, although this school may very well be the only school with a specific program taylored to this goal, I think this program could be put together from a number of schools. An operations management class from a school of forestry will not focus on something like automobile assy. or world wide overnite package delivery like a generic business classes would.

   Don

   Edited 10/8/2003 12:35:25 PM ET by Don C.

   Edited 10/8/2003 1:40:20 PM ET by Don C.

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   withthegrain | Oct 06, 2003 06:15pm | #4

   Hi Raats,

   I have attended a couple of different classes at "The Center for Furniture Craftsmanship". Although I only took classes in carving, I did get to see their program and the students working in the other shops. I think it is a first class school with much thought put into the course offerings and the visiting instructors. It is located in Maine, which might be too far from NYC for you. Several of the students I met had flown into Boston and rented a car for the trip to Maine. The school's new class schedule usually comes out around the first week of Janurary. Visit their site for more information.  http://www.woodschool.com/

   Dennis

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   DP | Oct 06, 2003 08:32pm | #5

   You also might want to take a look at The Furniture Institute of Massachusetts run by Phil Lowe in Beverly MA, which is near Boston.  I've taken several several 1 and 2 week workshops there and can recommend them highly.

   http://www.furnituremakingclasses.com/index1.html

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   Jgriff | Oct 09, 2003 11:00pm | #11

   If you're near to New York City, you might inquire of The Woodworkers' Club of Norwalk about courses available next summer. I don't think they will have an organized two-week seminar, but they may have one lasting several of those days.

   Add to that the ability to use a full sized equipped shop for the rest of the time and you might satisfy some of your need.

   Reach the WW Club at: http://www.woodworkersclubnorwalk.com/

   It is somehow affiliated with Ian Kirby, a woodworker of some note, who lives in that area.

   Norwalk (in lower Connecticut - Northeast of NYC) is about 60-75 minutes by train from Grand Central Station in mid-town NYC. Use Metro-North (a commuter rail service) rather than Amtrack which leaves from Pennsylvania Station at 34th Street and 7th Avenue. Metro North is 1/2 the price of Amtrack and has 5-6 times as many trains running as Amtrack.

   You might also want to check Taunton Magazines' site (http://http://www.taunton.com/). Several years ago they had a list of ww schools and ww clubs which might offer additional information.

   Good luck.

   
   

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   Edited 10/9/2003 4:01:00 PM ET by Griff