table leaf support systems
I am making a small “coctail” table for a yacht. It will be mounted on a pedestal, bolted to the deck. The design calls for the table to be 32″long and 18″ wide with a 9″ leaf on each end. The leaves are to fold up flush to the underside of the table. I have hinghes that accomplish this and magnets to hold the leaves in the closed position, but I have failed to find any hardware to support the leaves when they are in the open position. The only solution I have been able to come up with so far is to rout dovetail grooves in both the table bottom and the leaves and have dovetail “keys” that slide out from under the table into the leaves leaving half of each “key” in the table bottom and half into the leaves. This arrangement seems workable, but may have sticking issues and I’m not sure how rigidly it will hold the leaves. Anyone out there tackled this scenario before?
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See:
http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/page.aspx?c=2&p=40143&cat=3,41241,41261&ap=1
-Steve
Steve,
Tried the link you suggested but it wouldn't open up. I will try just Googling Lee Valley and see if I can dig up what you were sending me to - hardware that does what I need to do?
Thanks Rump
Steve's link worked for me. This is the product # 00H05.01Chris @ http://www.flairwoodwork.spaces.live.com and now http://www.flairwoodworks.com)
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Chris,
Thanks for your imput. Second try the link worked. Hardware would be an option if I hadn't already routed for hinges that allow leaves to fit flush against bottom of table. Also Steve posted the other concern about steel and marine enviroment. I'll be mocking up my sliding dovetail arrangement. Fingers crossed for good results.
R
Yes, it is a combination hinge and leaf support. However, upon further review, I realize that it probably won't work in your situation: It's made of plated steel, and assuming that this is an ocean-going yacht, that would be a Bad Thing.It would be worth looking at anyway, as it is an interesting design, and you might be able to come up with a more seaworthy variation.-Steve
Steve,
I couldn't pull up the hinge on Lee Valley web site but I tried your link again and it worked. That particular hinge/support would maybe be acceptable (although not making the leaf/leaves flush with the underside of the table, not even thinking of the marine enviroment issue), but I have already routed and installed the hinges (brass) that allow for a nice flush fitting. I'll be mocking up my dovetail groove/key setup on some less expensive material before committing to it on $22/bd.ft Teak.
Thanks for your imput.
R
r,
Another method , one from a small ships table I have , has a gate leg sort of hinged corbel support on each end , some old pieces had a swivel support cut into the aprons that worked also .
regards dusty
oldusty,
I don't understand the first sug. and there are no aprons on my table, just the 5/4 Teak main slab and two end hinged leaves.
r
Edited 6/5/2009 9:46 pm ET by rumplestiltskin
r,
Here is a look of the little ships drop leaf table and one way of support.
Note the insert in the base for securing it down.
regards dusty
Dusty,
Thanks for the follow up. However, the gate leg type support doesn't work with a leaf (leaves) that fold 180 degrees and "store" flush under the table, presenting a double thick looking table on the ends. Leaves fold back short of the 9" pedestal under table attachment flange. Table has no aprons. I have mocked up and subsequently done the sliding dovetail keys on this project. Mostly successful -slight downward cant of leaves (very minimal) - remains to be seen how trouble free (with wood movement) the teak keys continue to operate. I did try to envision a type of "gate leg" that could swivel and fold into a recess (1/2 & 1/2 into the table and leaf (leaves)) but it left my head spinning as to what type of hardware ("knuckle") could possibly accomplish the task at hand.
R
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