within’ the week i’m gonna need an outfeed table for my uni-saw, i’ve decided on the collapsable roller type because of the configuration of my shop and constantly ran into the htc -hor-1038u 37″x31″. any one familiar with this one or is there another one out there for around the same money that’s better i’ve heard that not all the rollers can be adjusted to the one closest to the table, hows the quality of the htc unit ?? any advice, pointers ,and suggestions would be a big help. thanks…… bear
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FWIW - David Marks has the HTC outfeed table on his TS. (90% accuracy here)
At one time Jet offered a roller outfeed extension but I didn't see it on their website.
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Michael in San Jose
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I built a collapsable outfeed table on my cabinet saw from melamine & baltic birch plywood. I wasn't convinced about the accuracy of the rollers on the tables that I saw up close.
bear
I tend to agree with Craig. I believe if there's any way you can come up with friction extentions you will have a safer and more efficeint set-up. Just a personal take of my own past use of rollers in general. I have had stock get radical on them and end up with near kick-back with that action transferred back to the blade and adjacent fence.
sarge..jt
Proud member of the : "I Rocked With ToolDoc Club" .... :>)
Amen to sarge's comment. Build ye a solid top extension table, make it collapsible if you like. It will also serve well as an additional work surface if sturdy enough. Thin or crazy grain stock on a roller table like that is askin' for it.
hhhhmmm i almost convinced...."expectations are premeditated resentments"
"hhhhmmm i almost convinced...." What little extra will it take to convince you, Bear? I bake a mean brownie, LOL! FWIW, Sarge, et al., are right IMO. You don't want anything encouraging your stock to stray from its correct path, and what rolls out easily rolls back with equal abandon.forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)Another proud member of the "I Rocked With ToolDoc Club" .... :>)
BROWNIES....OOOOOHHHHH MAN (with nuts)??? HE SURELY IS A LUCKY MAN. man i love brownies. melamine with apple ply it is. hey do you frost them babies?? butter cream frosting right???????"expectations are premeditated resentments"
For you, Bear, I would special-frost with buttercream. (For me, it's CHOCOLATE ALL THE WAY!). Have fun with the project, let us know what design you use.
PS: "Nuts" -- you betcha!
forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)Another proud member of the "I Rocked With ToolDoc Club" .... :>)
Edited 3/21/2004 12:29 pm ET by forestgirl
FG
I love brownies.
If only you lived closer.
(Don't worry, my wife makes great ones)
Jeff
Bear,
I have to concur with Sarge and the others, and suggest/recommend that you build your own outfeed table. This is a link to Al Amaral's web site where he shares his design for a collapsible table (with photos). The design is solid, and inexpensive to make, it will serve you well.
http://members.aol.com/Alamaral/Outfeed.html
Dan Kornfeld, Owner/President - Odyssey Wood Design, Inc.
dan - thanks for the time and effort you posting the thread, you, sarge and F.G.(the brownie nymph, i wonder if she has one of those brown beret with the stem on top??) are ai. you've cinched it, you've helped me out with steam bending and glue laminating, and the formula of spring back. which worked very well, so thanks again to all . be safe and happy.........slainte ....bear"expectations are premeditated resentments"
Personally, I don't like the roller supports. If they are angled even slightly, the stock wants to 'creep' and the cut can go bad.
I use my workbench (ACX plywood) as the outfeed table. About once a year, I give it a light sanding and a coat of polyurethane. Stock comes off my saw as smooth as glass with no 'creep'.
Dave
Excellent idea to use the work-bench. My work-bench sits lenght-wise in front of my TS. The back of the saw is about 4' from the garage door. The work-bench, which is 7' long and the assembly table about 3' behind it give me about 14' of rear friction support. It's not co-incidence the work-bench and assembly table are the same height as the TS top.
I have a 1 1/2' extention (MDF coated with poly) built on the back TS rail. Another 3' flip up extention (MDF also) behind it which gives me 5' extention behind the saw (about 11" TS surface behind the blade). Anything longer means open the door and set up the wide, four footed friction stands (HD as they are extremely sturdy, the friction top is wide and the top flips level when the stock meets it) behind the saw. I have four of them so I can rip some long stock.
Just ripped 800 linear feet of pecan in about 14' lenghts and a piece of cake. So, yep the friction method is a lot safer IMO. The good news for "bear" is he found out the easy way without having to buy rollers and discover the hard and expensive way. ha.. ha...
Regards...
sarge..jtProud member of the : "I Rocked With ToolDoc Club" .... :>)
Sarge,
"Just ripped 800 linear feet of pecan in about 14' lenghts and a piece of cake."--Never had to rip cake before, but have sliced frozen lamb chops on a band saw a la Tage Frid. Boy what a mess that turned out to be; probably needed a Woodslicer blade.
Anyway, for The Bear, if he wants something that moves with his saw once it is folded up, Delta has an outfeed table (50-302) that doesn't have rollers. Although if I had to do it again, I would have built my own outfeed table that butts up to the back of my saw. A shop-built table would have been sturdier, larger, and cheaper, but at the time, the Delta made more sense for my shop.
Ricky
I often fill in at large wedding with my TS and do the cake slicing. I need the extra money for my "plane addiction".
You're right about the built on tables being sturdier. Usually cheaper too. Hopefully someday you will be in position to switch over.
Regards...
sarge..jtProud member of the : "I Rocked With ToolDoc Club" .... :>)
Well, Sarge, I'll think of you when I'm planning my next big event--although I'm more partial to pie, which probably would be more appropriately served with a miter saw.
A good article on building a shop built ts extension table that folds down easily is in FWW #163 magazine on pages 59 to 61.
I have heard stories like those above, with the rollers skewing the wood. So I bought the Ridgid flip top stands from Home Depot. Adjustable height, so I can use them on different tools (saw, jointer, etc.).
For outfeed, the top start at a slope so if the material sags, it catches and lifts slightly as the top goes level. The plastic top is very slippery to wood.
I also use them for in-feed - beside the saw, for large sheet goods. In that mode, the top can be clipped level.
They are relatively inexpensive, fold up small, and work great.
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