I’m using a water based stain (Behr’s), tinted with Trans Tint dye (less than1 ounce /quart) to finish a new set of raised panel kitchen cabinet doors and the existing stripped face frames to which they will be mounted. I’ve opted for a water based product, which I haven’t used before, only because the face frames will have to be stained in place in a kitchen with no windows – i.e. no good ventilation.
The problem I’ve encountered is that the stain wants to tack up almost immediately. Before I can evenly distribute the stain on the raised panel (I’m finishing the panels prior to gluing up the doors to avoid having an unstained edge appear when the panel later shrinks), it gets tacky and I’ve had to rewet the whole panel with more stain and rub vigorously to dissolve the streaks. I’ve had to add some water as well on some trials in order to eliminate the streaks. This procedure results in a much lighter color than is acceptable. I hate to think of trying to finish the frames (with a very busy profile cut) once the doors are assembled while dealing with this problem. And I’m concerned about using this kind of stain for the face frames, since I’ve seen how difficult it’s going to be to wipe both the horizontal and vertical members before this stain starts to set up.
Is there anything that can be added to the water based stain in order to slow the drying time? I’m wondering whether this is a problem with all water based stains, or just with the Behr’s product. It hasn’t escaped my notice that Home Depot has stopped carrrying Behr’s water based stain, and I’m beginning to wonder whether this problem may be the reason for that.
Edited 11/27/2005 8:14 am ET by FHW
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FAR from a expert here.. I'm not sure about water based.. I just use Oil mostly..
I'd think a hunk of scrap would be OK before the BIG project!
BUT I thought.. Trans Tint dye was Oil based.. What I know?
EDIT;; However I never use WATER stains in the product.. Just me.. I wipe the sticks with the stain for a under-coat and finish with whatever.. I'm no expert on the subject...
Edited 11/27/2005 11:17 am by WillGeorge
Edited 11/27/2005 11:18 am by WillGeorge
i havent had the problem your talking about not with the stain.
With the finish yes , but you can buy a additive to slow down the drying timne of the finish, But with the stain you have to move pretty quick.
You can rag it on fairly quick or use a cheap brush to flood the piece and wipe it off.
why didnt you tint the finish? you can buy custom colors spray it and wont have that hassel. http://www.compliantspraysystems.com they can help you or jeff jewett at http://www.homesteadfinishing.com
i think if you send them a sample of the color you can get the finished tinted.
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