Replies

1. 
   Crunk | Jan 23, 2004 09:40pm | #1

   I've never run across any.

1. 
   Crunk | Jan 24, 2004 01:42am | #7

   Layouts on grids abound.  Commercial Mylar (or other material) templates do not.

   Sounds like a business opportunity.

2. 
   jeffreysherow | Jan 23, 2004 09:57pm | #2

   Many magazine articles print a template with a 1 grid that is some documented percentage of actual size.  I believe if you scan the picture into your computer you can then have a kinko's (or someone like them) print at the correct multiple on a plotter for you to have a full-size paper copy to make a template.

   If you don't have a scanner, reply and I'll scan one from FWW (it was issue 14-something) for you that you can take to a printer.

   Jeff

1. 
   larrmartin | Jan 24, 2004 07:17am | #8

   Jeff, I'd love a scan of one. Please e-mail to me at larrmartin @aol.com. Thanks a million.

2. 
   jeffreysherow | Feb 09, 2004 06:50pm | #15

   Here is the template for three different legs from the FWW article.  In the file they are approximately actual size, scale to 102% to get the grid exact. but it may require a bit of trial and error to get printed right because printers tend to have some variation.  The grid should be 1" so its easy enough to test.  I'm going to send to a kinkos with instructions and I'll let you know how it works out.

   Happy queen anning

   Jeff

   
3. 
   jazzdogg | Jan 23, 2004 10:02pm | #3

   Larry,

   There's great information on this process, as well as some nice scale drawings, in the book "American Furniture of the 18th Century" by Jeffrey P. Greene (pub. Taunton). On page 149 there's a very helpful diagram showing key dimensions of a cabriole leg, and there's are several pages that show how to cut and shape the leg.

   There are several photographs of period pieces in the book, along with excellent text.

   You can also take measurements from a photograph to create your own template (I use a grid to make things a little easier). The scaling/drawing process is also covered in the book - it's not difficult to do, just a little time consuming.

   If you have access to an actual piece of furniture from which you can take measurements, Taunton has an excellent video by Phil Lowe  called "Measuring Furniture for Reproduction" in which the entire process is covered - from drawing to building - using a transitional Wm & Mary / Queen Anne chair on display at the Peabody-Essex Museum.

   Good luck,
   Paul

   Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, you're right.
1. 
   AlanTurner | Jan 24, 2004 12:23am | #4

   Laaarry

   Greene's book is excellent, and also there was an article by Lonnie Bird in FWW that covered the leg and  its relative proportions in some detail.  There are different styles for different uses, and there are regional differences as well.  New Englad tended to be straighter and thinner, whereas Philadelphia makers were heavier and more curvacious (my preference).

   Once you get the relative proportions and their limits, I think you might like designing your own.  There are a number of options for feet, from ball and claw, to slipper, to trifid, to turned pad, none, etc.  The ankle varies, depending upon the foot.  And the foot and the knee (and the knee block, if you are using one) should be in harmony, of course.  And of course the size of the corner post varies rather dramatically as well, from 1.25" or 1.5" to 2.25" or more , depending. 

   What is your use?  End table (26")?  Chair (17")? Dining (29") or hall table (39")?  How wide are the aprons?

   This is a real opportunity for you.  I will say that drawing and making the pattern is a fun aspect for me.  Last ones I did took me 15 hours of design and mock up time, and I think it was time very well spent.  That is "my" leg, if you know what I mean.  I drew it full scale, cut the pattern, made a leg from the pattern of scrap poplar, laminated, reshaped the leg to how I liked it, and redid the pattern to match the remade leg.  Then I made a second mockup to be sure it was right.  That pattern is now part of my permanent collection, and the next set of legs for such a piece will make up quite quickly.

   Enjoy.

   AlanAlan

   http://www.alanturnerfurnituremaker.com

1. 
   Biscardi | Jan 24, 2004 01:21am | #5

   I think you will find a drawing and explanation in "Making Period Furniture" by the Taunton Press.

1. 
   AlanTurner | Jan 24, 2004 01:38am | #6

   You ar ecorrect; I forgot about that.  Also, Joyce's book covers it in terse detail (as he covers all subjects).

   AlanAlan

   http://www.alanturnerfurnituremaker.com

2. 
   larrmartin | Jan 24, 2004 07:23am | #10

   I just collecting my basic info at this stage and have not yet designed the Queen Anne side or tea table which will be for my daugter's 40th birthday next year. This info gets me off to a flying start. Thanks.

2. 
   larrmartin | Jan 24, 2004 07:20am | #9

   Great info. I'll look into each. Thaks.

4. 
   kensshop | Jan 24, 2004 08:03pm | #11

   Another book which is a must for anyone interested in Queen Anne furniture.

   "Queen Anne Furniture" History, design and construction by Norman Vandal.            Taunton Press   

          Good Luck, Ken

1. 
   larrmartin | Jan 26, 2004 02:08am | #14

   Just came from the library where I was able to order a couple of books thru Interlibrary Loan. On my next trip I'll add Vandal's book to the oorder. Thanks so much for the lead.

5. 
   aew | Jan 24, 2004 09:27pm | #12

   There is a great plan and article by Lonnie Bird for a QA tea table in American Woodworker, #49, Dec 1995 which includes a grid for the legs.  I have built two (one in cherry and the other in curly maple) from this article and they look great.  I think Bird's leg (no pun intended) design is one of the better ones around but I flatten the foot a bit as I think it looks better.  By the way, the top design on this plan is a good one that permits expansion without problems with pulling the table apart.

   AEW

1. 
   larrmartin | Jan 26, 2004 02:05am | #13

   Thank you, I'll look it up. I have another reference from a Fine Woodworking article for a Lonnie Bird grid for a Queen Anne leg for a secretary which has gotten me started. The smaller leg for the table seems right on point.