Thickness Planer Frustrations
Thickness Planer Frustrations: I miss my old Ryobi AP10 that worked perfectly and that I sold to buy a Dewalt with two more inches of capacity (which I hardly ever use). Since then, I went through two Dewalts and now have a dog of a machine with the Ridgid from Home Depot. The Ridgid is underpowered, trips the thermo breaker, and won’t hold a thickness, and can’t pull a heavy board through the machine. The Dewalt couldn’t get rid of chips fast enough even with my Oneida dust collector, and chips jammed and ruined the plane. What to do? What about the newer two speed Dewalt? Some folks complained about weak knives, but I think those reviews seemed a bit inexperienced to me. Should I look at the Delta? Any advice appreciated.
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I've got the 13" 2 speed dewalt(I think its the 735). I dont use it every day, but when I do I am happy with the results and have not had any problems. Remember it is heavy about 100lbs. Hope you dont work alone.
Thanks for the reply. I have been thinking about buying that one. I hear it clears chips very well. Does it pull a heavy board through easily? Does it bog down or trip a breaker? Have you pushed a big load through?
Joe
The biggest i've run through so far has been 8' 2x6. It pulled fine. I havent had any problems with bogging or breakers either. I've run a few boards through (dont know what you consider a big load).
As far as chip removal goes its a snowstorm(kinda fun to watch). That blower throws chips everywhere.
Joe,
I have had the Dewalt 735 for about 1 year now. It works as advertised, able to pull a large load and the chip assist ejector works well. To demonstrate it's pulling ability, I made the jointer jig that was in Finewoodworking magzine for jointing wide boards a few months ago, and it was able to pull a 8 foot version with a 2 in x 8 in x 8 foot long of oak through without problems. I do add some wax to the table prior to planning heavy boards to make it slick. It is very loud and very heavy. No problems with blade changes or durability.
Good Luck,
Dave
Your good experiences with the Ryobi remind me that a company's reputation can often ride on a single tool.
You need to use a separator before the dust collector. A simple trash can ( metal , not plastic) with separator lid will pull the chips into the can with dust going into the oneida.I have used a couple of bench top planers,all worked satisfactorily ,but the noise is deafening. I sold my Dewalt and bought a Jet planer molder , this has a 1 1/2 hp induction motor that planes up to 13" wide and will make most moldings.The difference is like night and day, the noise is much less ( I still use ear protection). The planer will handle long and heavy stock without tipping.Changing knives is much easier. This planer is on wheels that lock, I never lock them, no need to.Takes no more space than the benchtops.
I may sell this planer -molder as I need a 20" now that business is growing. If I recall I paid about $750.00 for it about 4 years ago without tax. I have at least 2 new sets of knives that go with it not including new knives installed last week.
If you are interested ,email me. I am in south Jersey, shipping this machine would be costly as it weighs about 200 lbs. I would think you would want to see it in operation anyhow before you would buy.$ 400.00 is the price, includes all manuals,video and at least two sets of knives never taken out of the package.
mike
but the noise is deafening...
Did you say something?
Dear Joe,
I think if I were you I would look at the Delta 15" or Jet 15" planers. I have a 13" Delta planer which is the forerunner to the 15" and it has been pretty good. I had to rebuild the transmission in it once but that may have been partly my fault. The 15" Delta is an improvement from mine and mine is not too bad.
Good luck,
Morris Ridenour
Indiana
Thanks to everyone for the comments. If I lived in Jersey, I would snap up that Jet machine. But, I am way out in Wisconsin. A question about that Jet and this 15 inch Delta: Don't those machines use a metal roller with edges that grip the board (instead of the rubber rollers). I don't like those metal rollers because they make indentations of about 1/32 inch (at least on the industrial one I used in a big shop). Since I often like to shave off 1/64 inch, I can't do it because the roller marks remain. Does anyone else have this problem. That is why I like these rubber roller bench top machines. Just wish they worked better.
Joe, in the shop you worked in the planer may have been a skip planer,not used for final planing, some of these planers do leave indentations. I think mine is steel not rubber, I'll look tomorrow now that you ask.Also the feed rollers have to be tensioned correctly,to much and the serrations could show thru, even on a finish planer.I also like to shave off 1/64" for the final pass, no problems with dents. Sometimes inadequate dust collection can cause dents, the rollers push the small chips down into the surface.I have a friend that bought his first planer a couple of years ago, the Jet 15". He came over and told me that he wasn't getting a good clean cut with the planer. After a few questions ( he was new to using a planer) I realized he wasn't using a dust collector and separator.I put a portable dust collector and metal trash can with a separator lid in his truck,sent him home to try it out. He came back that night with my stuff and a case of Old Milwaukee. We went to Penn State Industries on the following Saturday and got every thing he needed.
mike
There is no such machine as a skip planer. Skip planing or skip facing (jointer) is simply a light planing of the wood.
Hi Joe - Both of the newer machines you mentioned typically get great feedback from owners. A couple of things entered my mind....it sounds like your electrical may be a tad underrated. If you have an extendsion cord make sure it's 12 gauge or heavier. Also, make sure nothing else is running on it when you're planing. Some machines are just more sensitive to voltage loss than others.
Give the rollers a good cleaning and keep the bed and tables waxed. Be sure to only take light passes to...1/32" to 1/16" max. If none of this helps, the suggestion for a stationary planer is a good idea.
I have the Jet 15" planer...I find it tempramental. The feed rollers are steel and if there is any moisture in the wood, it will not feed. Further, if there is a variation in the thickness of the rough stock more that 1/16" the planer stops feeding and cuts a groove across the wood. Once the material has been through once, the machine behaves as advertised. Note that I always joint one side first.
My old Hitachi 12" with its small motor did not stop feeding........probably because of the neoprene outfeed rollers.
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