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   jako17 | Oct 28, 2004 10:53am | #1

   Hi Allan

           Give the folks at Franklins tech line a call.They have an 800 number but it is not to hand at the moment .It is on the gallon glue bottles for sure.I have found them very helpful in the past

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   lwj2 | Oct 30, 2004 01:34am | #9

   Franklin Customer Service:

   http://www.titebond.com/IntroPageTB.ASP?UserType=1&ProdSel=WNWhatsNewTB.asp

   Our Customer Service Team provides the highest level of customer satisfaction. You may call our team Monday - Friday, 8 a.m.- 5 p.m EST, e-mail us a question or view a Portable Document File (PDF).

   Customer Service

   Phone (800)669-4583

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   BArnold | Oct 28, 2004 02:07pm | #2

   Allen,

   I've used both and the only visible difference is II is yellow whereas I is nearly white.  Both are about the same consistency.  Shelf life is specified as two years for I and II.  From your description of the product being watery, it may be out of date.  Check the date code on the bottle.  Here's a blurb from Titebond.com about the date code:

   "The first character in the lot number stands for the last number of the year that the glue was manufactured. The second character is always a letter, ranging from A to M. We do not use "I" because it resembles a "1". These twelve letters correspond to the twelve months of the year. The rest of the numbers in the lot number are for internal tracking purposes. Therefore, a product with the lot number 7A5268 was manufactured in January 1997."

   Also, here's a link to their product guide: http://www.titebond.com/download/pdf/ww/GlueGuideTB.pdf

   Regards,

   Bill Arnold - Custom Woodcrafting

   Food for Thought: The Ark was built by amateurs; the Titanic by professionals.

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   RickL | Oct 28, 2004 07:35pm | #5

   Bill...all the titebond I've ever used was yellow, The original and type II  The original Elmers was white. We used to call the original titebond yellow glue as opposed to  white glue (elmers) if we wanted a longer open time.

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   BArnold | Oct 28, 2004 09:45pm | #6

   Rick,

   Yeah, you're right.  Seems that TiteBond I is lighter than II, that's why I called it 'white' when it's really more of a cream color.  I'll try to do better next time, boss.  :-)

   Regards,Bill Arnold - Custom Woodcrafting

   "I do my own thinking; therefore, I vote for the best person."I will think next Tuesday; therefore, George W. Bush is the only choice!"

   Food for Thought: The Ark was built by amateurs; the Titanic by professionals.

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   allenschell2 | Oct 28, 2004 11:28pm | #7

   Thanks to all for your help, I stuck an couple scraps of oak handrail together overnight and knocked them apart this morning and the joint was stronger than the wood so apparantly the stuff has plenty of stickem, just acts different than tite I.

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   nikkiwood | Oct 29, 2004 06:51am | #8

   I too have used I and II interchangeably (for interior projects).

   But I would take the suggestion of tracking down the Franklin 800 number. If the glue doesn't look "right" it probably isn't right.

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   jackplane | Oct 28, 2004 02:11pm | #3

   It works and feels the same as the other stuff, but has cross-linking polymers for better adhesion.

    If you see two colors light and dark from the outside, shake it up first. Check the date on the bottle- it should be bought within a year of manufacture though the shelf life can be several years provided it has not gone through freeze/thaw cycles.

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   bones | Oct 28, 2004 02:33pm | #4

   I use it (last night to be exact) and never have had any problem with it. Depending on temperature and RH I have experienced a varying set time, but generally it's about 15 minutes. Sounds like it may be old or experienced freezing.

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   Clay | Oct 30, 2004 06:23am | #10

   Your old glue was probably starting to polymerize and thicken.  The fresh stuff is thinner and MUCH better.  I like to use Titebond II Extend.  The longer open time and thinner viscosity is easier to use and I think it has slightly better fill and strength too.  It has become my standard glue now.  You have to buy it in the big jugs though (as far as I know anyway) and fill your own applicator bottles.  It is also great when you need a little bit of special edge tape ... just glue up a very thin ripping or a strip of veneer and glue the edge too, let them dry and then iron on like regular edge tape (this works with any of the common white or yellow wood glues).