Hello All
I need to make a Conor cabinet in a friends kitchen. the house was made in the late 1920’s, its all plaster, and the walls are no where close to square.
My question is should I stick build this cabinet or make it in the shop (European stile) ,and then mount it to the walls.
If I stick build it I can get an almost perfect flush mounting. All I need to do is scribe the walls and … built in cabinet.
I am not sure which way is better?
can anyone give me some input on the advantages of both?
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OK, what's a conor cabinet?? I've never heard of that one.
Matt
I don't know what a Conor cabinet is but I know about corner cabinets. - lol
Whatever you're building, I suspect it would be much easier to do in the shop and make it all square. Trying to build something while always "tweaking" it seems like a sure fire receipe for a lot of frustration.
Whoops! ;-) I meant corner, It looks like spell check missed that one."O"well!
the original cabinets were built inplace (stick built) and it seams to me ,that this way may be the easiest way to make the cabinet fit the corner correctly.
In this house nothing is square the wall look fine until you put a level to them there are dips and waves in the wall as much as 3". I will need to scribe the cabinet to fit the wall anyway.
Perhaps there is some kind of half way between both ways, make the cabinet in the shop, and assemble on spot and scribe and sand to fit.
Im not sure any ideas would be nice.
sincerely.C.A.G.
Seems to me the best thing would involve both approaches. You would "stick build" a frame to receive the cabinet on site, creating a plumb, square, space. Then you'd build the actual cabinet in the shop.
"OK, what's a conor cabinet?? I've never heard of that one."
Hey, I'm from Maine, I knew exactly what you meant...
I'd build it in the shop, screw the son-of-a-buck to the wall, and call it good.
THREE INCH DIPS AND WAVES??? Are those walls or a roller coaster?? - lol
If this were my project, I think I would build it in the shop and make a faceframe that extends WAY past both sides of the front. When I installed it, I would build a "plaform" so the base would sit level - then I would sit the cabinet on the platform and slide it back toward the corner scribing the faceframe "wings" as needed until it was in position. Once I had that done, I would try to think up a neat way to anchor it to the rooler coaster walls. - lol
Good Luck and post some pictures. I gotta see this.
Thanks guys!
I think I will build it in the shop and leave the sides long. I hadn't thought of that. although I had thought of making it with out a back, and scribing it as you suggested, and then adding a false back after the cabinet had been installed.
and as far as the anchoring gos. that will be simple, there is an axis to the backside, so finding the studs, will not be a problem. the studs are true 2"x4" with cross supports every 2'. (This wall is SOLID.nothing short of a bomb would even damage its stability. ) :-)
Thanks again! C.A.G.C.A.G.
Of course you realize that the truly proper procedure would be to straighten out the walls to within at least reasonably normal tolerances BEFORE making and fitting the cabinet? Since the wall is very solid It might be advisable to make a very shallow soffit or something like that which would provide a decent landing for the cabinet. An even simpler approach would be to fill in the deepest hollows with some additional plaster feathering. Or you might just refloat the whole wall (over the existing plaster). If you do add some plaster be sure to use some rewettable plaster glue on the old wall surface to insure proper adhesion. You could also screw some drywall shims wherever the depth warrants to help fill faster and provide a mechanical bond (I liked to use rocklath for this purpose but am told that it is no longer available). Pieces of galvanized metal lath can also be used to reinforce the deeper areas and any holes that need to be covered over.
Thanks I will Think about it. thats not such a bad idea.C.A.G.
Touche'. It was getting close to my bedtime after a long day. - lol
Without a doubt it's better to build it in the shop. I've seen worse situations than you described and it's important to take careful measurements to allow for all the waves. It's a heck of a lot slower and less efficient unless the site is bigger than your shop!
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