I want to build this workbench using only the essiential hand tools
http://www.popularwoodworking.com/article/175_Workbench/
If on a budget what are the bare essiential handtools needed to build this project?
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Only you can determine such a list. Imagine how you would build each component and that will determine the tools you need. For example, the top is glued up from many boards. Each board has to be the same length and height and milled square. Will you cut them with hand saws? How will you measure the boards? How will you flatten them - planes, sandpaper, etc? How will you know the board faces are square to one another? How will you hold the boards together while the glue sets? How will you make the dog holes? and so on. As you decide how you'll constryct the bench you'll see what tools you need.
Look into Roubo bench and short list of tools
You should take a look at Chris' Roubo bench plans. Not that much more involved and you will end up with a better bench. Here is a short list of tools needed.
Bits and Brace (larger sweep brace, bits to match required hole sizes)
Handsaws (panel rip & crosscut and also backsaws in rip and crosscut)
Jointer plane (fore, smoother, shoulder and router would also be helpful)
Chisels (bevel edge and mortise in various sizes depending on jointery)
squares (large framing, and small combination)
screw drivers (to mount vises)
wrenches or socket set (also to mount vises)
various clamps
Add other tools as the need for them develops.
Think about what type of woodworking projects you plan to build. It sounds like you want to go more of a handtool route. If so, the easiest mistake to make with a bench is to build it too high. Chris recommends having the height of the bench match the distance from the floor to where your little finger joins your hand (the big knuckle joint) when your hand is hanging down at your side. Also, make the bench as long as you can based on your finances and available workspace.
Good luck,
gdblake
Simple Question and no simple answer
Looking at the article.
You will need to dimension the lumber, ie flatten, square and true faces on all of your stock. You will be taking some 2 by 8 pine material, cutting it to length. Resawing it to the correct width and depth. Then planning all the surfaces for glue up. A table saw would be nice, as well as a jointer and planer. Otherwise this is going to be a long project. Without this, check out Grizzley tools for some Premade slabs for the top.
The lower section you can do with hand tools, good back saw, crosscut saw, a small block plane and a few chisels will work. Obviously there are better things out there, different planes etc. It all adds up to some $$$ pretty quick, but I used to build things like this with an old wormdrive skill saw and a guide system. By the time you finish you will know more about what you want.
Check out the two posts by Reeltime1 on his journey of building a bench.
The bench you are building will be a great starter, and a Roubo would be better yet. The good thing about this bench is the legs are flush to the top, so it has that in common with a Roubo, and that is one of the best features not to miss. An end vise is nice as well, but that can be added later.
Post your journey AZMO
Remembering Mr. O
9619 Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem. Pluralitas non est ponenda sine necessitate.
Wisdom
Swenson,
Non illigitimi carborindum.
Reddite ergo, quae sunt Caesaris, Caesari et, quae sunt Dei, Deo
Quid, me vexare?
Ciao,
Mel
PS My ancestors spoke Italian. Their ancestors spoke Latin. Pick your language, let us discuss any problem you wish in any language you wish. Auf wiedersehen. A piu tardi, A demain. Vaya con Dios. I prefer European languages, but try anything you feel comfortable with.
I forgot almost all of my Latin and I was a altar boy.
I forgot almost all of my Latin and I was a altar boy that had to speak latin durning mass..
I had to search....
Reddite ergo, quae sunt Caesaris, Caesari et, quae sunt Dei, Deo
I found http://audiolatinproverbs.blogspot.com/2007/05/quod-dei-deo-quod-caesaris-caesari.html
I may even order the book.. Aesop's Fables in Latin.. I sure hope I can also find a audio book with translations in plain English!
http://audiolatinproverbs.blogspot.com/2009/07/proverbs-in-aesops-fables-book.html
What fun I found from your post! Thanks....I know.. I like and do strange things!
By the way, how are the little older babies doing? Mine are fine and much fun.. I have to babysit my Chinal dolls on the 18th...
And a new baby boy early this month for my youngest daughter and her very nice husband... He is Italian! Ok, the father.. I thing we are German/Irish and whatevee else my kin picked up along the road during our long journey of life....
My kin thought of life as a pilgrimage, a adventure, and most of all.. NOT a destination to any place very special. If a Pub was on the path of life.. All the better and we probably stayed untill the money ran out for drinks...
And outside of TCM very old movies... I sure loved Frank Millers Sin City with Mickey Rourke (What a nut to this day!) I do love strange people.... I even have the Showtime DVD's of Weeds!
And I love some, but not all Opera....
You have to be a bit strange to love woodworking and work.. I'd die in a week if I did not have any work to do? OK, maybe two weeks?
"non illegitimi carborundum" is not Latin,,, it is fake Latin. The same kind of fake language that Ceasar used to speak when he was pretending to speak German on The Show of Shows. That's Sid Caesar by the way. I always thought it was a sign on Gen Patton's desk, but one afternoon in the early 60s, on jump run with Gen Joe W. Stillwell, jr he told me that it was his dad's, Vinegar Joe's saying. We called Joe jr. "cider Joe" by the way.
My original quote just means KISS... Keep it Simple, Stupid. Just yanking someone's chain for the fun of it. I don't blame him for the bad spelling of carborundum, I think he's a water stone kind of guy. All in fun.
Quid me anxius sum.
Mr. O's KISS
Ockham's razor "Entities must not be multiplied beyond necessity" (entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem). The popular interpretation of this principle is that the simplest explanation is usually the correct one.
"Pluralitas non est ponenda sine necessitate ("plurality should not be posited without necessity").
"Quid rides? Mutato nomine,
"Quid rides? Mutato nomine, de te fabula narratur." Horace
Mutato nomine, de te fabula narratur.
Indeed. Too much "rides". I kid around too much. All this poor guy wanted was some info on building a bench and I hijacked the thread, with Latin of all things... the last time I studied Latin was in 1953 at Leonia High.
latin spellcheck
Non illegitimi carborundum
you may not realize what a huge question you just asked.
Well looks like Mel has been keeping up my end of the sarcastic replies. I was going to say a pocket knife but it will take a little longer.
Sooooo to the short and sweet but perhaps bitter sweet facts :
You gonna need a bench to make a bench. Of some kind. : )
I can recommend two black and decker workmates and a japanese planing beam.
If you have to ask what tools. You are not ready to make a bench. That sounds harsh doesn't it? It isn't. Making a work bench is a huge, daunting project that will require very serious energy input from your body. You are going to need to start small and train for this a bit. No; train for it a lot.
The people who study work benches and teach work benches say it will be so daunting and time consuming that by the time you are done with your first bench you will probably be ready for a different style of bench.
One of the problems here is if you are not already doing a fair amount of hand tool woodworking on some hunk of junk work bench, or a used one you picked up some where cheep, you may not know what kind of projects you want to make in the future. The projects determine the bench style. Then if you start using power tools mostly you will want a taller, different style bench.
If you don't read, and it sounds like you don't read or you would be devouring books about all this and be asking specific questions about one tool verses another or probs using the tool you have, then heaven help you.
By the way the handle on that vise in your link is perfectly ridiculous. Way, way too long. I like the guys at that web site but . . .
See the two pics I have included. I have never found a reason to need a longer handle, for wood working, than these vises have. If you start to spin that two or two and a half footer they show there you may end up knocking yourself out.
And finally unless your girl friend is willing to help you on the other end of a two man saw, mine did for a while ( a very short while ) then I strongly recommend you get one of these (click on word):
Laguna
If you don't read, and it sounds like you don't read...
ROC, I think you are on to something, I finally got around to clicking on the plans in the original question about tools needed and low and behold they tell you what tools to use in the instructions. They show you pictures of what tools are needed. But the kicker is that the first 2 tools mentioned are:
"Your first task is to use your jointer and planer to remove those rounded edges and get all your lumber down to 1-3/8" thick."
Not too sure if tbmfish is ready for this.
Squezzzzing the glue out...
I think tbmfish (who never replied back) was offering a small test. Do any knot heads read the question first? Swenson you hit the nail on the head, the list was right there to copy and paste. Pretty good job of phishing indeed. AZMO
List? I have looked several times. I got the PDF and looked at it a couple of times. Will you post it here? Apparently my brain stopped working or I am getting a different article than you or sumpin.
Hand tool list ? Nada. List ? I don't have no list, we don't need no list . . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsdZKCh6RsU&feature=search
Oh and don't forget about $130 to $250 worth of clamps for the glue up.
tbmfish,
Are you there ? Have you given up this wild idea and taken up kite flying or skate boarding ? Where are ya' man ?
Hi roc,
"You gonna need a
Hi roc,
"You gonna need a bench to make a bench."
Not really, it just makes it a lot easier. I built my first bench (and my last one, as I'm still using it) in 1974 on the floor of my shop.
Tools were indeed pretty minimal. I used an adze, a stanley jack plane, a skillsaw, mallet, couple chisels, brace and bits. The top is a pair of 6x10s 8' long. I fitted them together edgewise with the adze and the plane. flattened the top with the adze and plane. Not a lot of laughs working on a concrete floor, but do-able. the sliding dovetail joints for the 2x6 battens under the top and the 6x6 legs were cut with the skilsaw, and waste chiselled out. Pounded things together with the poll of the adze. Then I was able to UGH! turn the thing up on its feet, and I had a bench to finish my bench!
The setback was on day two of the project, when I came to work on it and saw that contact with the wood had severely rusted the plane's body overnite. The top was salvaged timbers from an old warehouse used to store...fertilizer. I ended up adzing about 1/2" off the top to remove the chemical residue (put the chips in my flowerbed), and ended that problem.
Use it up, wear it out;
Make it do or do without.
Ray
Huh
I hear ya' but I should have said 'need a bench to make THAT bench. With hand tools. I would like to see how you joint that many boards for THAT bench using your shop floor.
Maybe post some pics of how it's done. The ambulance guys that came to unbend you when wife discovered what was left of you unable to unbend enough to stand up. The session with the chiropractor, You know. . . all those beautiful details that make the reader feel like they are really there experiencing the grand adventure right along with you.
Roc,
"I would like to see
Roc,
"I would like to see how you joint that many boards for THAT bench using your shop floor."
I'm thinking shop creeper, belly down, with the plane pushed outboard, your toes pushing the whole thing along. Think bugs bunny tiptoe sound effects- bwingbwing bwing- with the plane's swoosh- filling the floor with shavings.
Ray
If any could do it Bugs could
>bugs bunny . . . bwingbwing bwing <
Ha, ha, ha, aaahhhh, Ha, ha, ha, ha
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