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   Eef | Nov 04, 2009 12:28am | #1

   slop,
   are the grooves to allow the glue to move along the dowel? if so, sounds like a good idea. i have epoxied metal into wood many times. i know of furniture with metal, (brass,silver,copper and pewter), inlay. are your dowels/pins going to be exposed? i, for one, think that would look very good.
   eef

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   Slopdrop | Nov 04, 2009 12:38am | #2

   Actually I was thinking of putting the grooves across the pin, all around to hold more glue and avoid any chance of the pin coming out or loosening. I am going to tap them in flush with the edge of the arm.

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   Eef | Nov 04, 2009 01:38am | #3

   slop,
   i did not mean to suggest that the grooves would be visible, that would look weird. epoxy is pretty amazing stuff. just a few grooves should give the assembly enough "tooth". with the ends of the brass sanded flush, it should look quite nice.
   eef

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   roc | Nov 04, 2009 07:47am | #4

   I used brass pins in these saw horses. I did not use any glue etc. I wanted to be able to replace the top rails if I wanted to. Drilled for a snug fit and pressed the pins in using my drill press. Kind of like nailing them together but in slow motion. Worked great !

   A couple of them I made the pins the exact length to be flush and a couple I made the ends domed and standing proud of the surface.

   One pin per joint pressed all the way across.

   Of corse the ultimate is to draw bore and use a wet oak pin. It totaly locks the joint .

   roc

   Give me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening the axe. Abraham Lincoln ( 54° shaves )

   
   

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   Edited 11/3/2009 11:50 pm by roc

   
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   StephenShepherd | Nov 04, 2009 05:26pm | #5

   You don't have to use epoxy, you can use liquid hide glue.  Just make sure you etch the brass with a clove of fresh garlic.

   Stephen

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   Eef | Nov 04, 2009 10:43pm | #7

   stephen,..."etch with a clove of fresh garlic."how pleasant that would be. what a simpler world that describes. you wouldn't be yanking our umbilicals, would you?
   eef

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   StephenShepherd | Nov 05, 2009 01:09am | #8

   True story, the special acids in fresh garlic will etch the hardest metal and give a good key for the liquid hide glue to grip.  All of this is covered in my latest book Hide Glue - Historical & Practical Applications 2009.  I am not sure if I can plug my own book, does that violate the rules here?

   Stephen

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   Eef | Nov 05, 2009 01:40am | #9

   steve,
   plug.
   eef

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   roc | Nov 05, 2009 08:56am | #10

   >special acids in fresh garlic will etch the hardest metal<Does a job on my stomach as well. That is about the only thing I don't dare toss down the hatch.Torpedos be dammed; glad to know about your book !rocGive me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening the axe. Abraham Lincoln ( 54° shaves )

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   RalphBarker | Nov 05, 2009 09:18pm | #11

   Plus, the residual garlic is good for werewolf suppression. ;-)

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   GaryW | Nov 04, 2009 07:09pm | #6

   I've used brass dowels and have chiseled barbs along the dowel's shank so that they're prevented from pulling out.

   Gary W

   gwwoodworking.com