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   SgianDubh | Jan 14, 2006 03:30pm | #1

   Yes.

   MDF, plywood, chip (particle) board, blockboard, and even solid wood can be used as substrates.

   PVA, hide, urea formaldehyde, epoxy resin, polyurethane, etc., might all be good glue choices.

   If you can say what the intended end purpose of the job is then more specific answers would surely come. Slainte.

   Richard Jones Furniture

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   RyanC | Jan 14, 2006 05:08pm | #2

   Thanks for all the help. By the way the intended use is a reproduction of a georgian writing slope.  I'm going to venneer the top to look more like the original.

   Thanks,  Ryan

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   SgianDubh | Jan 14, 2006 05:58pm | #3

   In that case if it's meant to be a copy as near to the original as possible then you'd probably go for a stable pine or possibly American mahogany groundwork using hide glue to attach the veneer.

   If it's meant to look approximately like the Georgian original without being a faithful copy then you could pick any of the man made boards with MDF and chipboard the most dimensionally stable and  flat, but both are more prone to sagging under load than either plywood or blockboard (aka lumbercore) In all situations with using man made board as a ground you'd need to consider your options for dealing with their edges, and perhaps delamination issues if you need to screw into the edge of the board.

   Any of the glues I suggested before could be used in this circumstance, but many prefer the rigidity of urea formaldehyde types over the creepiness of PVA types, especially with the thicker 1/16" veneers you mentioned in your first post. Slainte.Richard Jones Furniture

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   RyanC | Jan 15, 2006 06:42am | #4

   well i guess i have alot more than i thought to learn about veneering thanks for being so helpful everyone.  Oh yeah if you want to see the article im reproducing heres the link              http://www.hygra.com/wb/wbcr19.htm

                         thanks again,  Ryan

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   RyanC | Jan 16, 2006 07:48am | #5

   Ok just thought of another question for this subject.  Could I use tempered hardboard (pegboard material w/o holes) for a substrate?  If so I assume it would need sanded a bit to help with glue absorption.

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   JohnH | Jan 16, 2006 06:01pm | #6

   Hello Ryan,

   I have used hardboard for a veneer substrate with urea-formaldehyde glue with good results. I did not sand the smooth side and had no delaminating problems. You have to be careful not to put too much adhesive on the smooth side because the adhesive doesn't soak into the substrate. The texture of the rough side gives the excess adhesive somewhere to go. Maybe that would be a reason to sand the smooth side.

   IMHO you shouldn't use PVA glue on a hardboard substrate because PVA glue is for wood-to-wood joining and the hardboard smooth surface is mostly resin.

   Good luck with your project, John

   Edited 1/16/2006 12:16 pm by JohnH

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   SgianDubh | Jan 16, 2006 11:46pm | #7

   As JohnH said Ryan, you can use hardboard as a veneer ground.

   I don't really see hardboard as a suitable material for a copy of traditional writing slope though if that's the project you're still looking at?

   Jings, I could be barking up the wrong tree entirely on that usage of hardboard, ha, ha. Slainte.Richard Jones Furniture

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   RyanC | Jan 17, 2006 12:06am | #8

   I understand about it not being original but I'm not really concerned about it because on one side it will be covered with the veneer and the other will be covered with most likely leather.  Does anyone know a source of leather somewhere around western Kentucky, if not just a mail order place that carries it?