Veritas Skew Rabbit Plane vs. LN Skew Block Plane
I have been trying to decide between the Veritas Skew Rabbit Plane or the Lie Nielsen Skew Block Plane. I know there is a $100 dollar difference in price but ignore that and assume they are the same price for comparison/usefulness. Both seem to have pros and cons that make me want to have both, but if I can only get one, does anyone have any thoughts as to which? I would use them for rabbiting of course and the Veritas has a depth stop that is nice. I am also intrigued by the Rob Cosman dovetail technique where he cuts a tiny shoulder on the pin board with a LN skew block plane to assist alignment. Seems like the Veritas can easily do that too. Thanks for your thoughts. Dave
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I find no use for a skew or rebate block plane. A regular block plane is just better, in my opinion. The Veritas is excellent for rebates, and have used it to assist in dovetailing. I no longer use that technique though. It requires 2 different marking gauge setups that are a tiny bit different, and it's easy to mix them up.
I have both those planes, and the Veritas is the only one that sees any use. The Lie Nielsen is, of course, exquisitely made.
Awesome, thank you for your input. Much appreciated and saves me money. Haha
Long ago I bought th LN skew block plane and used it for a couple of years before becoming frustrated with the difficulty of using it as a small rebate plane, due to the need to remove that side plate it sports. As a block plane (with its removable side attached) it was OK but standard and low angle block planes were more versatile in the types of wood grain they'd handle without any issue of tear out, blade-slip and so forth.
I sold the LN, happily for the same amount that I paid for it. They do keep their value when sold second hand, those LNs. The LN fetish at work, I feel. :-)
Some years later I indulged myself in the LV skew block plane, including the extra bits of depth stop and longer fence support. This plane is generally superior to the LN in that there's no fiddling about with that side plate; and it works very well as a mini rebate plane for small box parts, drawer parts and the like.
I also have a second blade with a steeper micro-bevel, which is used with the nasty grained woods, which does vastly reduce tear out in such stuff. You can buy a left hand as well as the right hand version of this plane, supposedly to the same effect (being able to cut with the grain rather than against it, no matter which way you need to cut). But the high angle extra blade is a better solution as it deals with grain that changes direction in a single workpiece.
In all events, I recommend the LV over the LN for its improved design, extra facilities and better performance, let alone on price grounds.
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Thank you very much. Super helpful. Dave
I believe the word you're looking for is rabbet, not rebate or rabbit.
Haha. Embarrassing. Yes, you are correct and my apologies for not spell checking. Thanks
Rebate is also correct. It's the British term.
I have the LV skew rabbet and the LV skew block planes. They both work great. The block is better at fitting tenons and the rabbet at...rabbeting. I'm actually selling the rabbet. I find myself in a bit of a hurry these days an going to the router table all the time. The perils of making for money I guess.
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Don't you need a left and right?
Hand tools are great and a love them, but this is a case where I'm breaking out a dado blade or a router.
You don't need both. It's just a matter of which hand pushes the plane. There's a nicker, so the plane will cut with or against the grain. And, it's just a rebate.
If you are doing a rebate, buy the LV rebate plane. It works so much better than the LN 140. I have the LN skewed block and like you thought I’d use it for the Cosman 140 trick. In fact I did for several years, but now use his new technique of tape. Works better and no adjustment of dimensions for drawers etc.. But I found trying to use it for rebates or tenons it just wasn’t great. And as a block plane, well there are better ones out there. When I got the LV skewed rebate plane a couple of years ago it was so much better and I use a LV router plane for adjusting tenons. In fact I haven’t used the LN 140 for months now. But it sure is pretty in my plane till.