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   gulfstar | Dec 19, 2020 09:03pm | #1

   Santa has already delivered.

   
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   john_c2 | Dec 20, 2020 11:12am | #7

   What is it, what is it?!

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   _mj_ | Dec 19, 2020 09:15pm | #2

   A 16hp 6-phase 24" radial arm saw?? Knew it.

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   rob_ss | Dec 20, 2020 03:02am | #3

   An inlaid hardwood floor for the shop springs to mind!
   I'd truly like an oscillating spindle sander I think though, for after that nice floor is down...

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   lat_axe | Dec 20, 2020 05:15am | #4

   Yes, a much larger volume in which to place the many WW tools and aids I crave but now have no room for. I would like a-one of those USA workshops that can be seen from space. .... Not in the USA, mind. No.

   As to the table saw - you don't need two but rather one European-style item, with a cross-cut carriage as part of the design.

   https://www.finewoodworking.com/2012/09/25/hammer-k3-winner-31x48-tablesaw-review

   Even I have one (a Scheppach) in my teeny-weeny one-car garage.

   Lataxe

   
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   john_c2 | Dec 20, 2020 06:13am | #5

   I just ordered a Sawstop this past week. Its supposed to get shipped Jan. 14!

   I'm going to try to keep my old Ridgid contractor saw. I'd like to use it as an outlet table. Take the wings off, and leave the dado blade in it permanently. I just really doubt there will be room for it in an already crowded shop.

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   weymouth2 | Dec 20, 2020 10:56am | #6

   Congrats John_C2! I know you’ve been batting that back and forth for a while. Congrats on pulling the trigger, very exciting!

   Neal

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   gulfstar | Dec 20, 2020 11:49am | #8

   Taught you would get a jointer John?

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   john_c2 | Dec 20, 2020 01:45pm | #10

   Nobody likes a smartaleck. I will never, ever own a jointer. Totally unnecessary.

   If I had the room, I'd get a 20 inch helical head planer to replace my 12 inch lunchbox. That would be sweet. Maybe someday I'll turn my garage into a rough lumber processing area.

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   _mj_ | Dec 20, 2020 01:05pm | #9

   Gulfstar, are you going to tell us what's in the crate?

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   john_c2 | Dec 20, 2020 01:46pm | #11

   I looked up the number on the crate, and the most common hit is for a drone. Maybe he's arming for the apocalypse.

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   gulfstar | Dec 20, 2020 02:22pm | #13

   I had that covered old school long ago !

   
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   john_c2 | Dec 20, 2020 05:16pm | #14

   You've got them pointed both ways. Very RoadRunner.

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   gulfstar | Dec 20, 2020 01:51pm | #12

   Of course, got it Monday and got it going Thursday , I had to re-arrange my power distribution for the 5 hp motor and been using it for a couple days now. Very smooth operation with the helical cutter head and not a trace of snipe with the cast iron extension tables. Had to change the shop layout also so I get to open the garage door for longer boards, not always practical in the winter.

   
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   john_c2 | Dec 20, 2020 05:17pm | #15

   How wide?

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   gulfstar | Dec 20, 2020 05:46pm | #16

   20 inches, I recently found a stack of elm boards, 2 1/4 inches thick 14 to 18 inches wide air dried 3 years and more maple live edge wide boards which I plan to use in a local restaurant in the making and figure they would kill my 25 year old 16 inches 3 blades el cheapo planer.

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   john_c2 | Dec 20, 2020 06:10pm | #17

   Now I'm a little jealous. I don't recognize the brand though.

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   gulfstar | Dec 20, 2020 07:06pm | #18

   Craftex is a Grizzly clone, One brother established the US company and the other established a Canadian branch, same machine, different paint job. My father was buying from Busy Bee in the 80's and I followed up, buying from Ontario costs 5% sales tax and from my province 15%, it would be a King or a Shop Fox, go figure.

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   _mj_ | Dec 20, 2020 07:23pm | #19

   GS, Congrats on the new toy, I was only off by 11 HP. How wide is your jointer?

   ... and JC2, you`ll love the sawstop. Which one did you go for?

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   john_c2 | Dec 20, 2020 07:50pm | #20

   I got the PCS, 36 inch t-glide, industrial base, router table.

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    _mj_ | Dec 20, 2020 09:21pm | #21

    Awesome. The base is killer too.

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    curmudgeon | Dec 20, 2020 09:21pm | #22

    Sweet. Very nice.

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    geedubbee | Dec 20, 2020 09:24pm | #23

    " John_C2 | Dec 20, 2020 01:45pm | #10

    Nobody likes a smartaleck. I will never, ever own a jointer. Totally unnecessary. "

    This must be a running joke I'm not in on ;-)

    So you hand plane to get your initial reference surface?

    . . . why do I have the feeling I just kicked the hornet's nest?

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   john_c2 | Dec 21, 2020 02:55am | #24

   I've just never owned a jointer, and work very well without one. I think it's not a necessary tool, and certainly not a critical one.

   When I glue up panels, the edge comes right off the table saw. Easy peasy.

   I avoid buying twisted lumber. There is plenty that is straight without needing to deal with twist.

   Cupping is no problem. Run it through the planer cupped side down for a couple of passes. Flip it over and do the other side. Voila. Flat lumber.

   The vast majority of work is short lengths. There is no need to flatten a ten foot board. I cut my stock to rough length first, then I mill. Getting two and three foot boards flat and square with just a thickness planer and tablesaw is really easy.

   Once in a while I'll have a board with a little twist. It takes less than two minutes to knock down the high corners with a jack plane and winding sticks, then through the planer it goes.

   I try to work with wide boards. I really dislike gluing up narrow stock if I can ever help it. From the beginnings of my woodworking I knew I was never going to own a jointer capable of face jointing 9-12 inch boards. Back in the late 70s, early 80s, 6 inch jointers -- even 4 inch -- were common, and 8 inchers were very expensive pro tools. The only bigger jointers were multi-ton antiques. If I could flatten a 12 inch wide board without a jointer, flattening a 4 inch wide piece is child's play. Necessity taught me pretty easy workarounds.

   I know I'm in the minority, and wider jointers are available today for more reasonable money. But I really just think it's a machine easily done without.