Am I the only one who is upset with the nay saying know-it-alls that find it necessary to post replies to for sale ads in the classifieds? Why is it that every time I list items for sale some jerk has to jump in with a hole bunch of dribble about parts no longer available or and the status of the manufacture. There are lots of old tools and machinery listed every day that were made by manufactures who are no longer in business, hell, even manufactures who are still in business often can’t supply parts for some of their older equipment, but that doesn’t mean that there older tools are not serviceable. I have a 1949 Delta Double Duty lathe that still works fine. Delta doesn’t have any parts for it.
My father taught me at a very early age to never stick my nose into someone else’s business unless I was sure that they were being deceitful or taking advantage of someone weaker. Am I wrong to be upset with the half wits that post responses to my for sale adds, running down what I have to offer or making claims about the lack of availability of parts, thereby intimating that the items offered are somehow not worthy of being listed for sale? Am I the only one this happens to? Am I to understand that if an item is to be listed for sale its manufacture must still be in business in the US and must still have parts available? Is there anyone out there that thinks I am a dishonest person trying to take advantage them by listing my Inca machinery in the classifieds? Its obvious that the persons I am referring to have no interest in purchasing my machines, that’s fine, I think they should just move on to the next post. In my neck of the woods they could end up with a broken nose if they stick it in another’s business.
I am venting, but I think I have a legitimate reason to. What do you think? Go ahead, I am asking for your opinion 🙂
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they just know that they can get under your skin. you have to realize that it is a free public forum and I believe that freedom of speech is allowed in your country. but none the less those inca's are good machines but with the $300..00 plastic jobs that are out there they are a tough sale. only the people that appreciate them are the ones that are going to buy them; the rest will gravitate towards $300.00 ones and poke crap at yours as they don't have the intelligence to know any better
ron
I just read your other thread. nobody there said anything that was really out of line, but I remember the no brainers when I was trying to sell mine. The guy that did buy mine is still happy that he bought it 5 or 6 years ago
ron
Hi salamfam, Try to ignore the negative people here, it can be difficult!!. I notice when tools come up on the forum, for sale or general use, many here, are of the mind set, that it must fit inside the guide lines they have set, or it is just no good!. I don’t think it’s just you, it’s aimed at everyone, that doesn’t “own what I feel is the only tools to have”, attitude. I don’t reply to the for sale items, as I generally have no interest in buying at the moment, or I am just not interested in the items, and don’t feel it necessary to post negative comments. garyowen
Bob,
Not sure what you are frustrated about. Unless the guy is lying about Inca parts possibly not being available, he didn't challenge you, call you a name, or anything else. He simply commented that Inca is a good machine, but that parts aren't available.
It would seem you don't like what he said because he might kill a possible sale if the potential customer didn't know the facts. I would agree with some of the other observations that for some people, old machines are exactly what they want and they have ways of making new parts, or having them made, etc.
If I bought something from you and then found out that you knew I could not get replacement parts and you had not told me ????? -- we would have a problem. I would never buy from you and tell others to check very carefully before they bought anything from you.
Trust is critical. Ebay works because of trust and accountability. If a person doesn't fully disclose all the facts, they get bad ratings and people quit buying from them. Better to lay out the facts and have a happy customer so other customers will trust you. With the reputation and reliability of Inca, you will have a buyer at some point.
Alan - planesaw
There's a whole Inca Community out there, and many parts are available. I can't remember the company right now who has stock, but if anyone needs to know, I can find it. I haven't read the thread in question, but it's ridiculous to find fault with a pristine machine like that one being up for sale. There are tons of buyers for these little gems.
Salamfam, if they were picking on that Inca set-up SHAME ON THEM. That is a Gem!! Wow!! I haven't looked to see if that might have been one of the for-sale items that somebody got smart-a$$ about, but I have personal experience with how hard-to-find and highly desireable that little saw is (and the jointer too, though I've never owned one). The one I sold 2 years ago (smaller saw) fetched over $800, and it killed me to give it up. I just wanted to keep it in the family, LOL!!
Take a breath, Bob. Re-read your post and the replies, then read your reaction. They don't match in my opinion. Regardless, your language isn't appropriate.
Bob.. I normally don't get involved with a thread of this type but.. I did read your for sale thread out of curiousity. I really don't think the poster was out of line. If what he stated about parts not being available and you know for fact they are.. simply correct him on-line. He did mention a source that may have them so.. I truly think he was trying to help.
BTW... if I were considering a sub-stancial $$ machine that is somewhat vintage and there was a question of parts availabiltiy.. I would certainly do my own home-work before I pulled the trigger. It is the buyers responsibility IMO to know what he is buying.. etc. So.. calm down as I personally don't see the response as a big deal at all.
You shouldn't have trouble selling the machine if bottom line as someone interested has probably done their home-work in advance....
Good luck...
After reading your comment I was surprised when I read your For Sale the thread. I didn’t find anything out of line. What did you find objectionable?
Thank you all for your comments. I can see now that I over reacted to what were some legitimate comments regarding this equipment. No, I don’t want to see any limitations placed on replies to for sale posts. Just felt (wrongly so) that I was being accused in a backhanded manner of trying to deceive perspective buyers by not stating what I thought was the obvious regarding the present state of the brand manufacturer.
Thank you all again for setting me straight.
Bob i bought a Ridgid jointer from HD 3 years ago & now they tell me they no longer sell them & i have to go to local repair shop for knives
HD dosent have a 6" ridgid at at any of their stores in Canada they tell me , so much for the lifetime warranty i figure
I have bought many a piece of equipment where parts werent readily available , big deal
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