I need to attach a number of feet to the bottom of an ottoman and i will be glueing dowels into the feet and the bottom of the ottoman frame to do this. The dowels are 3/8’s. When I use a 3/8th bit they fit quite tightly and i’m worried there will not be enough space for the glue. Yet when i use my next bit size up — 25/64th — they fit a bit loose and i’m worried that there is too much space for the glue to fill and that they won’t hold well. Any insights on whether i should use 3/8 or 25/64 bit for the holes would be much appreciated. thanks, tony.
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3/8"
The glue will act as a lube.
Good luck!
Use 3/8". Your dowels should be notched or grooved to provide space for glue.
DR
DittoYou can make it fool proof but not idiot proof
Woodworker418,
Take your dowel and a pair of pliers and crimp the stock....up and down its length.
take your crosscut saw and run it up and down the side of the dowel this will give the nessesary groves for the glue to escape, thank God it is not whisky or I would be there to sample the nectar Patrick.
Hi. Iv'e had the same problem before and have corrected it by grinding a hair more off one side of my drill's cutting edge, this will cause it to wander slightly and have the drill cut just a few thou. over size, just enough to allow the dowel to fit a little less snuggly. Dowels always seem to be a little oversize as well as oval. Old machinist trick.
Ah? yes this is also taken into mind ~~ try puting the dowel into the chucks of millers falls hand drill and demise with a grade of sand paper to render spesific size then flute with teeth of saw for glue The great ascape }~#let me know out come remember to wipe surples glue as quick as poss. this can set fast stick-with it happy bonding
Why not use fluted dowels that are specifically made for this? They really work well.
Hal
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WW418,
As others have mentioned, your dowels may be oval or slightly oversized. Running them through a dowel plate will get them to the exact size you need, then you can groove or flute them, and use them.
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James
I make it a practice to over drill dowel hole depth on each side by 1/8" to 3/16" especially with those tight fitting ridged dowels(room for excess glue). Nothing worse than having an 1/8" gap that won't close. Also use glue sparingly, a little goes a long way. I also use a Q tip to swab the hole lightly.
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Bruce S.
Edited 11/20/2006 6:28 pm ET by BruceS
I agree with Hal on this one - use the fluted dowels. Buying dowels and cutting to length is problematic for this application because diameters are all over the place. It can best be done by purchasing several dowels and checking fit with your specific drill bit.
Steve
418,
If you had used a laser sensor to build a 3-D model of the dowel, and a CNC machine to mill the hole, you wouldn't be having these problems. The problem with too many modern woodworkers these days is that they scrimp on tools.
Mel
Measure your output in smiles per board foot.
A few swipes with 100 grit sandpaper can be enough to make the dowel snug, but not bind.
#418 ,
If your drill bit has been sharpened the hole it makes may be slightly undersized and cause the tight fit you speak of .
Try a new 3/8" bit , try some different 3/8" dowels .
good luck dusty
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