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   SARGEgrinder47 | Feb 08, 2010 10:25am | #1

   The carrier that delivers it will likely have a pallet jack on his truck to get the saw on the rear lift before he lowers it to the ground. There contractual job is done at that point but.. I have never seen a driver yet that was slipped a $20 bill not agree to use the pallet jack and roll it into your garage. That's assuming your driveway is not on a steep grade. ha.. ha...

   BTW.. some Woodcrafts will deliver to your home if they are local and not sure but that might mean get it off and inside your shop.

   Good luck...

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   RalphBarker | Feb 08, 2010 11:50am | #2

   It's always a good idea to
   It's always a good idea to listen to the wife when she insists on you buying new tools. ;-)

   If the driver refuses the $20, you might consider renting a hoist, or even buying one. Some models fold up to reduce their space consumption when stored, and they're not terribly expensive.

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   brownman | Feb 08, 2010 01:24pm | #3

   Hit low, buy now, and we're
   Hit low, buy now, and we're not talking stock here!

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   jphelps7 | Feb 08, 2010 01:44pm | #4

   I have the 3Hp 36" PCS Saw Stop and the weight is around 425+ lbs. The fence is very solid and very accurate. You will need a helper to stall the cast iron wings and portable base.

   My saw is everything I hoped it would be. A big surprise was the GREAT dust control....surpassed my highest expectations.

   Have fun!

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   Westchester | Feb 08, 2010 02:38pm | #6

   Injury is avoided by attentiveness -

   Saw stop - just not sure it is the best answer -

   You can't put saw stop on every hand or power tool in the shop.

   SA

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   philip_r | Feb 08, 2010 02:20pm | #5

   I got an ICS almost two years ago. I used an engine hoist and some straps. FYI, I also had 4 guys (early 20's) help me.

   The fence is great and the mobile base is the best I've ever used. The ICS is about 700 lbs, fully assembled. I'd guess it was around 600 lbs in the crate. Unpack and unload what you can.

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   forestgirl | Feb 08, 2010 03:39pm | #7

   Fabulous wife, Tony! I'm
   Fabulous wife, Tony! I'm surprised Sarge didn't say anything about the fence -- seem to remember he gave it rave reviews way back when. The only downside I've heard about SS is the new, lighter version that they've introduced for people who can't afford the original.

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   docrx | Feb 09, 2010 08:49am | #8

   Thanks to everyone for the input. Time to pony up the dough.

   Tony

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   Domer | Feb 09, 2010 03:16pm | #9

   I also have the Industrial 3hp SawStop. It is a great machine. You will need to have a tail gate lift as it is really heavy.

   We used four guys to lift it on to the mobile base and it was still difficult as I was one of the the four. Fortunately there was one really strong guy.

   I saw a video somewhere that used two 2x4's under the table top that let 4 guys lift the saw to both move it and put it on the mobile base.

   By the way, the mobile base works great. It has a hydrolic jack that makes the saw easy to move.

   Great saw. You will be happy with it.

   Domer

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   jointerman | Feb 10, 2010 02:23am | #10

   I'm glad all is okay! Can you
   I'm glad all is okay! Can you explain what you meant by not having the riving knife raised? I can set my riving knife to sit below the blade, but just barely. Any through cut would have the RK still showing above the cut.

   Also, just a comment on set up and the mobile base. I received a 5-600lbs saw on a pallet and was able to muscle it by myself onto the mobile base and roll it into the garage. The shipping pallet was quite useful. I put my saw on the Rockler All-terrain Mobile base. I highly recommend that base if you don't end up with the Saw Stop base.

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   docrx | Feb 11, 2010 08:40am | #14

   I have the Bosch 4100 and although I always use the riving knife when possible, I generally set it to the highest position. There are only 3 settings, high, med and all the way to the bottom, which comes up a little if the blade is at full height.

   I had it set to bottom and forgot to raise it because it is normally up all the time. Honestly, I never thought to check to see if it could have been set to just below blade height when I was making only a 1/8 inch deep score cut. I'll check into that. Like I mentioned before, totally my fault this happened, just lucky to have had a wake up call as opposed to an amputation. I'll check out that base.

   Tony

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   david263 | Feb 10, 2010 08:42am | #11

   Hi Tony!
   Hey... I'd
   Hi Tony!

   Hey... I'd definitly jump at the chance to buy the SS. If it was me...I'd do two things: Bite the bullet and go for the full-size sawstop (new one has several improvements) with the 52" table (the extra space on the saw is nice!) and upgrade the fence to a delta uni-fence. Sawstop has a great fence...but there are just very practical useful things that you need every day...that the Uni-fence can do...but the standard Biesemyer type won't....just a thought

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   docrx | Feb 11, 2010 08:46am | #15

   I was considering "just" the 36 inch. But the wife agrees with you that I should buy the bigger one...gotta love her!!! I'll check out the delta uni-fence. I am very unfamiliar with any of the upgraded fences. I checked out the saw stop fence and was very impressed with it. I'll check out the delta though.

   Thanks, Tony

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    jhonbaker | Feb 10, 2010 08:49am | #12

    poor guy.

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    Jfrostjr | Feb 10, 2010 10:07am | #13

    If you feel that getting a heavy piece of equipment into your shop is a problem, try the Yellow Pages under "riggers" or "millwrights". They are not cheap but are very familiar with machinery - and fast.

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   docrx | Feb 11, 2010 08:48am | #16

   i'll look into that.
   Thanks,
   i'll look into that.

   Thanks, Tony

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   Domer | Feb 11, 2010 01:32pm | #17

   Jointerman,

   You must be a hoss. Moving a 5-600 # saw by yourself and getting it on a mobile base by yourself.

   I don't think I want to argue with you.

   For the rest of us, getting four pretty strong guys with a couple of 2x4 for handles, is a pretty straight forward method of getting the saw indoors and on to the mobile base.

   You could also rent a engine hoist.

   Domer

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    JKfan | Feb 11, 2010 04:01pm | #18

    I have the Sawstop Industrial, 5hp, 1ph. I easily moved it from my driveway into my shop with three 1 inch pipes, a couple of wooden wedges, and a bit of patience. The side tables are heavy, but with a bit of ingenuity you can have them supported with whatever is handy while you bolt them on one at a time. Now what was interesting was later placing the mobility base under the saw. Time well spent. You won't be sorry with the saw stop. The question about the fence, so far it has been great. The alignment front to back was only off 0.009. Also an easy fix. Good luck with your saw, many hours of sawdust to come.