wood help: Poplar OK for storm windows?
I have a 100 year old house and am replacing the aluminum storm windows with original type hanging wood storm windows and screens. Problem is straight grain fir or pine is not readily available especially in 5/4 stock. I found one source but it was pushing $9.00 per board foot. Poplar is readily available and cheap (actually I already have a large amount in 5/4). If constructed properly with pinned full through mortises and being well primed and painted will it work or will I end up with twisted and warped windows. Please help. Thanks
Brian in Omaha
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I have used Poplar extensively on indoor projects. It is easy to work with and machines very well. It takes paint exceptionally well. Although I've never used it for outdoor service, I would think it would hold up to weather conditions seeing as how you intend to use pinned mortises and paint.
PaulW
Brian, yellow poplar has very poor decay resistance, but stability shouldn't be a major concern.
I have made several outdoor projects from poplar and I first treated them with "Woodlife" a wood preserative and then I primed them and applied two coats of exterior paint and after 8 years there is no sign of rot or decay. I have since painted them once or twice. Good luck.
I did it and had no problems. I used poplar for some window screens for my shop
which were primed and painted. Been up for about 3 years now and holding up
fine. As long as you carefully prime and paint them, any wood would be OK for
some screens.
falcon-- I want to put my 2 cents in. I've done a fair amount of restoration carpentry, and any time I've come across poplar used for exterior purposes, it hasn't held up. I've replaced woodwork less than 10 years old in some cases. In my opinion, pine would be a much better choice. I usually buy #2 pine and cut around the knots to get the stock I need. Its a lot cheaper than clear.
When I need cheap 5/4 stock, I plane some cheap 2x material down. There has also beenalot of discussion over at BT about using poplar outside.
Of course, this discussion comes after I've been making storms and screens for about 7 years. No complaints yet though. rg
Use Pine.
I have used poplar in several outdoor applications and would not recommend it to anyone. In my climate (the Southwest....well, not exactly, but Southwest Ohio any way) poplar was a poor choice.
Use pine or cypress....
TomS
Another vote for nay. Perhaps our weather plays a role, but the few times I've seen poplar around here outside (Nebraska) it has not done well at all and rots within a year or two. It doesn't even seem to need water. It just dry rots and falls apart. Pine, cedar, cypress, all more durable options.
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