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   SCFrankland | Jun 28, 2003 06:27pm | #1

   I have seen the product you are talking about.  I forget what it was called but I check with my buddy who has used the stuff.  It was some sort of resin mixture that we used to replace the rotten wood in a window.  I know we had to remove the lose rotten wood to get at some sort of solid base to work from. it was sort of like wood filler but ment for repair to rotten surfaces.

   Scott C. Frankland

   "This all could have been prevented if their parents had just used birth control"

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   darrel | Jun 28, 2003 07:26pm | #2

   Actually, I just got back from the local HW store and they had a product from MinWax: High Performance Wood Hardener.

   You brush it until you saturate the wood and is supposedly hardens real nicely. Looks like pretty nasty stuff (explosive, brain damage, etc.) so it must be good, right? ;o)

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   stancalow | Jun 28, 2003 07:31pm | #3

   Darrel510 

   I just mentioned the Minwax stuff in another thread about rotted wood.  I had the same problem with 10 windows (house 7yrs old).  I tried the Minwax product, and also the wood repair epoxy on some of the worst spots.  It was temporary fix at best.  I ended up replacing all the trim on all the windows with vinyl.  $$$$

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   darrel | Jun 28, 2003 10:40pm | #4

   Hmm...well, I can't replace the sills without buying new windows, so I'll have to gamble on the minwax stuff...

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   Telemike | Jun 28, 2003 10:55pm | #5

   Wooden boat enthusiasts (people that like sanding and varnishing, sanding and varnishing, etc) often repair small, non-structural dry rotted areas with low viscosity epoxies.  The stuff my neighbor used on his Chris-Craft is much thinner than even the West epoxies I've used.  Try a boat shop or the West Marine catalog.  They probably have a catalog site on the internet.

   The worker makes a dam around the area to be fixed with tape, then pours in the epoxy.  It just soaks in and hardens harder than the original wood.

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   darrel | Jun 28, 2003 11:25pm | #6

   Good idea. I've used the thicker epoxies, but I don't actually need a filler...just something to soak in...so perhaps a marine shop will be the place to go.

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   imcanadian | Jun 29, 2003 01:58pm | #7

   There's a product called "Git Rot" Ive used with good success on boats.

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   BFERGUSON | Jul 03, 2003 07:08pm | #8

   The prodauct that you are best looking for is made by Abatron. They are a company based out of kenosha wi and specialize in epoxy restoration products. I reacently did just what you are doing and ordered the liqiudwood epoxy to reinforce the rot areas. this product is a thin epoxy that soaks in great and hardens to made the wood like new, they also have a putty-like wood epoxy that can be used to fill in larger areas of missing wood.  Take a look at the website. I'd definately use them again.

   Just a satisfied customer

   brent

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   KyleZ | Jul 03, 2003 07:34pm | #9

   Darrel,

     I have used another product  from Abatron called WoodEpox on a couple different occasions with great success.  It is a two part epoxy that you mix together.  Use it to replace wood that has rotted away/been removed.  Put it on heavy. Once it dries, form it with planes, sanders, etc.  The product that Brent was referring to is a companion to the WoodEpox called LiquidWood to reinforce existing wood.  I gather from some of Abatron's literature that you can use LiquidWood to harden the existing wood, then use the WoodEpox.  I have not used the LiquidWood, but you may want to if there is significant rot. 

    WoodEpox is fairly spendy stuff.  However, considering the time and materials necessary to replace window sills, it is cheap in the long run.

   Good Luck

   Kyle

   
   

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   Edited 7/3/2003 12:54:15 PM ET by Kyle

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   EdHarrow | Jul 04, 2003 02:35am | #10

   You might want to give this a shot:  http://www.smithandcompany.org/

   Lots of wooden boaties swear by the stuff. 

   Ed

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   alias | Jul 04, 2003 08:26pm | #11

   d- 90% of my business is restoration work estates, barns everything from major structure elements, to the window boxs. and i mean.... everything....... in my repertoire' for rebuilding , augmenting, or refinishing. there are three things that i use, for outside exclusively use west systems and it's many fillers. abatron as mentioned before is also great stuff for consolidating the fibers, than filling with the epox-A-,-B-. this is the stuff to use to use for big fills. i've yet to find a equal. and minwax filler w/ the wood hardner. i can use all these in conjunction with each other. if given enough time to cure... and thats the key. i'm a west system schill . it' s never let me down. i limit minwax to minor fix ups i have seen trouble with exterior applications and perfect conditions are a must the wood hardner basically is methanol alchol. years ago they use too use ether and/ or embalming fluid.the other two have a much more a forgiving characteristics.. the manuals tell it all, for the risk of sounding pompous i'm good at what i do, im a third generation carpenter. w/ 24 years experiance..... cheers bear

   Edited 7/4/2003 1:32:47 PM ET by the bear

   
   

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   Edited 7/4/2003 1:53:48 PM ET by the bear

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   darrel | Jul 04, 2003 09:35pm | #12

   Thanks, Bear...good advice.

   I'm actually working on the windows today. What I eventually did was hunt down some Git-Rot at the boat shop and I'm going to give that a try. I don't have a lot of rot in the sills...basically the outside corners.

   I'll give it a shot and report back!

   -Darrel