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   IMERC | Dec 20, 2003 11:49pm | #1

   They both have their place...

   Ask about brands and see where that goes...

    

   Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....

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   Ben76 | Dec 21, 2003 01:56am | #2

   Awww man, you didn't even take the bait! ;) You are, of course, absolutely correct. I like my worm drive for heavy duty framing, but it leaks oil, so for everything else, I break out the yellow sidewinder. (Oh the shame, the humiliation!) Speaking of yellow ...

   <Ask about brands and see where that goes...>

   Ummm, lets see... Okay, got one! DeWalt makes the best tools in the world, followed closely by Ridgid, then Ryobi.

   Wishing you a warm and happy Christmas, Ben

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   IMERC | Dec 21, 2003 02:45am | #3

   Even children know better than that...

   Bosch or Milwaukee or not in the running.

   Yur outta yur league... outta da pool...

   Run with the big dogs or stay on the porch

    

   Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....

   Edited 12/21/2003 1:41:42 AM ET by IMERC

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   SBerruezo | Dec 21, 2003 08:37am | #4

   I have never seen a sidewinder on a jobsite out here.  All the saws are the HD77 or HD77M.  Fit these saws with the right blades and they will tear through anything. 

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   IMERC | Dec 21, 2003 09:46am | #5

   HD???    Mag 77's....

   Bosch is the parent company to the 77... 

   Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....

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   Ben76 | Dec 21, 2003 10:00pm | #6

   But IMERC, big dogs scare me...I feel so much safer on the porch...

   Seriously, Bosch is a good toolmaker. I have their tablesaw, 12" miter saw, and one of their entry level hammer drills, (which, strangely enough, replaced the pos Milwaukee hammer drill I bought, drilled maybe half a dozen 3/8" holes in concrete with, and burnt up, which really suprised me. Probably a tool made on a Monday!)Oh yeah, my wonderful, heavy duty (sure is HEAVY anyway!) Skilsaw.

   Does anyone know how to fix the oil leak problem?

   Oh, I still am a Milwaukee fan...That body grip 2 1/2 horse router looks mighty tasty!

   Regards, Ben

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   IMERC | Dec 21, 2003 11:09pm | #7

   My Bosch entry level HD did the same as your Milwaukee. I was doing Tapcons only with it.

   We have the same tool line... Amazing...

   The porch sounds like good thing. It's harder to drink your beer and you spill more of it if yur running....

   Where's the oil leak? 

   Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....

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   Ben76 | Dec 22, 2003 03:27am | #8

   Hmm, your Bosch, my Milwaukee. I'm thinking it's entry level hammer drills in general!

   As for the porch...My thoughts exactly!

   The oil leak on my saw seams to originate not from the oil plug, but from the bolt deal with the blade locking mechanism device in it. (Boy, did that sound like I know what I'm talking about, or what!)

   I've been hanging/finishing drywall hot and heavy pretty much the entire year till now, so I just kind of ignored it. Out of sight, out of mind, 'specially with me!

   I'm obviously not too worried about it, or I'd do something.

   On an aside, it really strikes me funny how some of the posters are SO concerned about "how long is my fill in the blank going to last?!"

   Don't get me wrong, I'm not making fun of them, and I also am really protective of my tools. It's just that I grew up as a sawmill kid, and when we had a breakdown, it was usually in the thousands of dollars.

   When I started in the trades, I thought it was absolutely awesome that I could drop a $150 saw off a roof, and that was all it was; $150.

   Well, that and time off the job if you didn't have a backup saw. So anyway... Stay warm, Ben

   Builder's do have to worry about their bids, though. Ever work for two months at $2 an hour? OUCH! Forgot about that aspect. Oh, and customer relationships. And inspectors. And weather. And so on, etc...

   Edited 12/21/2003 7:34:13 PM ET by Ben

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   SBerruezo | Dec 22, 2003 03:54am | #9

   The HD77 and HD77M are the model numbers of the Skilsaw(Skil). 

   For the leak, I would check the website of whatever model you have, maybe they have a piece for piece put-it-together diagram.  There may be a washer or seal that has gone bad.

   And in terms of "cheap" tools, I am WAY to poor to keep replacing my tools all the time.  Money seems to not be able to find my wallet very readily.

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   Ben76 | Dec 22, 2003 06:30am | #11

   Thanks, I will check that out.

   As far as cheap tools, I feel that I have bought well in tools. I haven't had a new tool in over two years, until last week. I bought a 14.4v Makita impact driver to match my drill. That little driver is just freaky! The power is incredible! I had some heavy 4" screws that zipped right into sunbaked framing. Highly recommended. Thank you Gary Katz! Take care, Ben

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   MikeRooney | Dec 22, 2003 04:48am | #10

   Sez You!

   You must be as bored as I am.

    

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   Ben76 | Dec 22, 2003 06:32am | #12

   Don't know exactly how bored you are...Must be pretty bad!

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   ravenwind | Jan 17, 2004 01:13am | #13

   ive got worm drive , had one stolen 5 years ago and went out and bought another , i will never be without one.  also like the dewalt 8 1/4  with front handle you losen to raise and lower base same design P C used to make nice saw . have green hitachi light weight  good saw to use at home ,     now im saving money to get the millwalkeewith aujustable handle, never used it dont get to excited about handle but saw gets great reviews and im sure when i start using it ill probibly find the handle is designed that way for good reason.........

   Dogboy

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   SBerruezo | Jan 17, 2004 04:22am | #14

   Word of caution about the Milwaukee circ saw.  I haven't used it, but I hear it is heavy as all heck.  If you are going to be using it in the manner many of us do (stupid and not advised) I recommend looking into the weight and balance.Young, poor, and eager to learn

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   ravenwind | Jan 17, 2004 07:26am | #15

   thanks   to be forwarned is to be forarmed.    I do like the PC saw that comes in left and right hand   .   Dogboy

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   Shep | Jan 17, 2004 09:37pm | #16

     In nearly 30 years, I've had very little experiemce with worm drives. My dad used to have this ancient 8-1/4" Skil worm drive which weighed a ton.  At the end of a day using it you would swear your cutting arm was longer than the other. It got stolen from our garage one day and I was actually glad to see it gone. My experience has with sidewinders. Here in NJ that's about all any uses. Maybe there are some advantages to a worm drive, but I haven't missed it.

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   ravenwind | Jan 18, 2004 07:28am | #17

   I have to say your right  , right for you that is .  ive found that for all day use sidwinders are great ,there lighter.  the time i like to use my worm the most is when cutting plywood, having the blade on the left side while reaching 1/2 way across a sheet is when i choose the worm.  and when i need to do cuts that match I clamp 2 or 3 sheets together and it has the balls to cut them like butter, even with a few teeth missing on the blade. but to anyone that lives with out one, great you might not be missing anything. after all this is about personal choice. There are a lot of things i dont do because my father didnt do them, he was a great teacher .

                                                            Dogboy